Palantir CEO Karp: AI has to work for the warfighter; has to work for enterprises; it has to be safe

>> MR. NADELLA, CAN YOU GIVE US A SENSE OF WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO TELL THE PRESIDENT TODAY? MR. NADELLA, YOU WANT ME TO GET A QUESTION FOR YOU? SURE. GO AHEAD. OKAY, I'LL DO THIS. OKAY. THIS IS HOW YOU DO IT. OKAY. LIKE CHARM. OKAY. CHARM. TELL ME ABOUT HOW AI WORKS ON THE BATTLEFIELD. THAT'S A QUESTION HE'LL ANSWER OR SEE, I THINK. >> I THINK WE FIND WE'VE FOUND CARBS. SECOND CAREER. THAT WAS OUR EAMON JAVERS IN PALANTIR. ALEX KARP AT THE WHITE HOUSE AHEAD OF THE PRESIDENT'S MEETING WITH SOME KEY TECH LEADERS. LET'S BRING IN EAMON. NOW TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT MOMENT, EAMON. >> YEAH. CARL. THAT'S RIGHT. A LITTLE BIT OF AN UNUSUAL INTERACTION WITH ALEX KARP THERE. WE'RE JUST WATCHING HERE OUTSIDE THE SOUTHWEST GATE OF THE WHITE HOUSE FOR THE ARRIVALS OF THESE OTHER CEOS WHO ARE EXPECTED FOR LUNCH WITH THE PRESIDENT ANY TIME NOW. AND WE'RE JUST SEEING SOME OF THEM PULLING IN HERE. ALEX KARP, AS YOU SAW FROM PALANTIR, DEFINITELY WANTED TO TALK. HE HAD A LOT TO SAY AT ONE POINT, AS YOU SAW, HE TOOK MY MICROPHONE OUT OF MY HANDS AND BEGAN INTERVIEWING PEOPLE ON THE STREET HERE. HE WANTED TO TALK. WE SAW SATYA NADELLA OF MICROSOFT, WHO DID NOT WANT TO TALK, DID NOT ANSWER ANY OF OUR QUESTIONS. SO WE'RE GETTING A VARIETY OF RESPONSES HERE. AS THESE CEOS COME IN TO MEET WITH THE PRESIDENT. I ASKED KARP, AND HE GOT A LITTLE BIT DEFENSIVE. I HAVE TO SAY. I ASKED HIM WHAT HIS MESSAGE IS TO THE PRESIDENT. HE SAID, I'M NOT GOING TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. WHAT DO YOU THINK I AM, THE VILLAGE IDIOT. AND HE GOT A LITTLE BIT CONFRONTATIONAL JUST BEFORE THAT SOUNDBITE THAT YOU SAW THERE. SO I THINK YOU CAN PICK UP A SENSE THAT SOME OF THESE CEOS ARE FEELING A LITTLE BIT ON THE SPOT HERE, RIGHT? BECAUSE THIS IS A PRESIDENT WHO HAS SAID HE DOESN'T THINK WE NEED ANY AI SAFETY SLOWDOWN AT ALL. HE SAID THAT AGAIN TODAY OVER AT THE MELLON AUDITORIUM. AND NOW WE'RE SEEING THESE CEOS, SOME OF WHOM BELIEVE VERY FUNDAMENTALLY THAT WE DO NEED AN AI SLOWDOWN COMING IN TO TALK TO THE PRESIDENT AND AND GIVE HIM THEIR $0.02. AND SO THIS COULD BE POTENTIALLY A CONTENTIOUS MEETING WITH THE PRESIDENT. ALL THESE CEOS, OF COURSE, DON'T WANT TO GET ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE UNDERLYING TENSION AS WE TALK TO THESE CEOS WHO ARE ON THEIR WAY. I'VE NEVER HAD ANYBODY. CARL, GRAB MY MICROPHONE, THOUGH, AND START INTERVIEWING OTHER CEOS ON MY BEHALF. I FEEL LIKE I NEED TO KICK HIM SOME OF MY SALARY FOR TODAY. >> WELL, NOW, NOW YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO INTERVIEW ALEX KARP. YOU NEVER KNOW WHERE IT'S GOING TO GO. BUT THAT'S RIGHT. YOU NEVER DO I DO. I THINK THAT THEY ALL AGREE FUNDAMENTALLY WITH THE PRESIDENT THAT THE U.S. NEEDS TO WIN THE AI RACE, RIGHT. AND THE U.S. NEEDS TO HAVE SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, FROM FROM THE GOVERNMENT AND THE ADMINISTRATION TO DO THAT AND TO INNOVATE. AND I GUESS THE QUESTION IS JUST HOW TO MAKE SURE IT'S IT'S SAFE FOR SOCIETY AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. FOR INSTANCE, WE'VE TALKED TO KARP A FEW WEEKS. I DON'T KNOW, LIKE A WEEK OR TWO AGO ABOUT ALL THIS. AND HE WAS SAYING THAT THESE COMPANIES REALLY WANT TO BE NATIONALIZED BECAUSE THEY BECAUSE THE, THE. >> I'M JUST WATCHING. >> YOUR LIABILITIES. >> WHILE WE'RE TALKING. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER ARRIVAL HERE LIVE. SO I'M GOING TO JUST SEE IF WE CAN ASK. LISA SU. >> LISA SU. >> GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. CAN YOU TELL US WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO TELL THE PRESIDENT TODAY? >> IT'S ALWAYS. >> GREAT TO BE HERE. >> OKAY. FAIR ENOUGH. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANOTHER CEO WHO DOESN'T WANT TO SAY MUCH MORE THAN THE PLEASANTRIES ON THE WAY IN, BUT I THOUGHT WE'D JUST INTERRUPT THE LIVE SHOT THERE AND SEE IF WE COULD GET A SENSE OF WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. BUT GO AHEAD AND FINISH YOUR POINT. >> NO, NO. AT LEAST SHE WAS POLITE TO YOU, EVEN IF SHE DIDN'T WANT TO. >> THAT'S RIGHT. I HAD STIFF ARMS. MUCH WORSE THAN THAT. >> YEAH. >> I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW THE TENSION. I GUESS THE TENSION IS ON WHAT TO DO ABOUT ALL THIS WHEN IT COMES TO SOME OF THESE SOCIETAL CONCERNS AND SOME OF THE SECURITY CONCERNS AROUND CYBER AND AROUND CIVILIZATION, THAT SOME OF THESE AI EXECUTIVES HAVE WARNED ABOUT. AND AROUND THAT TABLE, I WOULD THINK THERE'S ACTUALLY QUITE A MIX OF VIEWS ON ON WHAT TO DO ABOUT THAT. >> YEAH, THAT THAT'S RIGHT. AND WHAT WE SAW FROM THE PRESIDENT TODAY WAS THIS SENSE THAT THIS IS A ZERO SUM GAME ACCORDING TO THE PRESIDENT. HE SAID THERE'S GOING TO BE ONE WINNER AND THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF LOSERS, AND THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY SECOND PLACE. RIGHT. SO FROM THE PRESIDENT'S PERSPECTIVE, THIS IS YOU DO NOT WANT TO SLOW THIS AI RACE DOWN, BECAUSE IF YOU DO, YOU'RE GOING TO GET BEATEN BY CHINA AND YOU DON'T WANT TO INTERFERE WITH THIS GREAT GAMBLE THAT FINANCIAL MARKETS HAVE MADE ON THIS NEW TECHNOLOGY AND POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, POP A BUBBLE THAT COULD HAPPEN. YOU KNOW, FROM HIS PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULDN'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN AT ALL BEFORE THE MIDTERM ELECTIONS OR CERTAINLY DURING YOUR TERM AS PRESIDENT. SO FROM THE PRESIDENT'S PERSPECTIVE, IT IS FULL GAS ON THE GAS PEDAL FROM SOME OF THESE OTHER CEOS, THOUGH, THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE HERE. THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, RAISING THESE CONCERNS ABOUT SAFETY. AND YOU SAW THAT IN THE S-1 TODAY FROM ANTHROPIC RAISING CONCERNS OF EXISTENTIAL CONCERNS FOR ALL OF HUMANITY. I MEAN, WE'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THAT IN AN S-1 BEFORE. AND SO WE'RE IN A SITUATION WHERE, YOU KNOW, THESE CEOS HAVE TO TELL THE PRESIDENT SOMETHING THAT HE MIGHT NOT WANT TO HEAR. SOME OF THEM FEEL THAT THEY NEED TO TELL THE PRESIDENT SOMETHING THAT HE MIGHT NOT WANT TO HEAR. >> EAMON, I LOVED YOUR POINT EARLIER, WHERE NORMALLY YOU GET BUSINESS GOING TO THE WHITE HOUSE, ASKING THEM, BEGGING THEM TO LOOSEN THE SHACKLES. IN THIS CASE, YOU DO HAVE MAYBE THE INVERSE AS THE WORLD TURNS UPSIDE DOWN, JUST A TOUCH NO ONE MORE DANGEROUS WITH A STICK MIC THAN EAMON JAVERS EAMON. THANKS FOR THAT. >> THAT IS FUN LITTLE RIDE. >> BY THE WAY. SPEAKING